Ninja Freeze Mob Info

[reptile]

HI!

I decided to make a list of which mobs can be ninja frozen and which can't. I will update this page as I encounter more monsters. Due to my level, it may be impossible for me to find the status on lower level monsters.

For those of you who don't know, Ninjas have a special ability called: Sui-Ka. It is a level 9 ability that requires mana from both the Ninja ( 80 mana) and the Monster. Now the text says it requires 60 mana from the monster, but I've noticed it only uses 40 mana. One of the useful aspects about this skill, is that it sucks the enemy mana even if the enemy is immune. But it only sucks their mana if they have a minimum of 40 mana. Now I don't know when all monsters will start using their mana for spells (it seems like most do not), but for those monsters who do, this is a nice benefit for the Ninja. Also, while I can't find any official notes on the subject, it appears that the monster's defense is lowered considerably once frozen.

The purpose of this list is to provide a list that can be used to update Monster Information on this website.

So message to anyone who has authority to update this website:
I assume you're also a moderator, so here is my suggestion - each time I add a new monster to this list, I will bold him/her/it. When you add the information to the website, please edit my post and "un-bold" the monster you update. That way we can keep a running tally and know when a monster has/has not been updated


Avalurch - NO - Reason: Immune to Freeze Attacks
Battle Troll - YES
Behemoth - NO - Reason: Immune to Freeze Attacks
Braken - NO - Reason: Not Enough MP
Bright Sunray - NO - Reason: Immune to Freeze Attacks
Brigling - YES
Crabee Fighter - NO - Reason: Not Enough MP
Cyclops - YES
Duke of HaZard - YES - But is also healed.
Dwarf Warrior - NO - Reason: Immune to Freeze Attacks
Frost Colossus - NO - Reason: Immune to Freeze Attacks, and is healed.
Frost Giant - NO - Reason: Immune to Freeze Attacks
Frosty The Snow Golem - NO - Reason: Immune to Freeze Attacks, and is healed.
Ghost - NO - Reason: Immune to Freeze Attacks, and is healed.
Giant Piranha - NO - Reason: Immune to Freeze Attacks, and is healed.
Glayser - NO - Reason: Immune to Freeze Attacks
Griffin - YES
Ice Dragon - NO - Reason: Immune to Freeze Attacks, and is healed.
Ice Golem - NO - Reason: Immune to Freeze Attacks < In fact, not only is this one immune, but using this spell heals him for an equal ammount of mana you drain from him (40 hp).
Icezard - NO - Reason: Not Enough MP
Kresh - NO - Reason: Not Enough MP
Little Gogg - NO - Reason: Immune to Freeze Attacks
Mermazon - NO - Reason: Immune to Freeze Attacks, and is healed.
Piranhas - NO - Reason: Immune to Freeze Attacks, and is healed (despite resistances not being in the negatives).
Sandy Claws - YES - But, he is healed. This is an odd combo to say the least.
Sea Squirt - NO - Reason: Immune to Freeze Attacks, and is healed.
Shevite - YES
Sir Lanceler - NO - Reason: Immune to Freeze Attacks
Skull Swarm - NO - Reason: Immune to Freeze Attacks, and is healed.
SkyHunter - YES
Snayl - NO - Reason: Immune to Freeze Attacks, and is healed.
Snow Warrior - NO - Reason: Immune to Freeze Attacks
Stone Golem - NO - Reason: Not Enough MP
TadZard - NO - Reason: Immune to Freeze Attacks, and is healed.
The Bloatt - YES
The Roc - YES
Thunderbird - Unknown - Resisted (implies it can be frozen)
Troll - NO - Reason: Immune to Freeze Attacks
Two-Bear - NO - Reason: Immune to Freeze Attacks
Undead Wounded - NO - Reason: Immune to Freeze Attacks
Vagaran - YES
WhaleZard - YES
Yeti - NO - Reason: Immune to Freeze Attacks
Young Minotaur - YES
Zeel - NO - Reason: Immune to Freeze Attacks



One thing I have noticed is some monsters are healed by this skill. I'm not sure how many are healed, because many times I used this attack when they were at full health. There is no rhyme or reason to this healing. At first I thought it was related to the resistance modifiers, now I have learned it isn't. Also, not all who are invulnerable to freeze attacks will heal.
The Ice Resistance modifier does not seem to have any effect on the success/failure of this ability.
Many (if not all) Ice/Snow elemental based monsters seem to be immune. However, other monsters are immune as well, so don't depend just on their element.

[Xenos Infinity]

Resisted is due, I think, to END. if you could nerf the Thunderbird or were lucky it would freeze.

[reptile]

ok that makes sense. But I think level also has something to do as well.

[yogurtfresh]

do we need a list? we all know that the requirments are to have over 100% damage mod and enough mp, so thats simple....

[Micah]

Here is what controls whether you can freeze it:
Monsters End- If it is high then it may say a message that freezing failed...you just need to get lucky.
Monsters Ice % (needs to be 100 or higher)
And if you want to use the ninja move, then have at least 40 mana apparently.

I usually use my elite ice katana to freeze my enemies...It's special occurs often

Suik doesn't really need a list of monsters able to be frozen...Unless I am wrong he lets the people browsing determine whether the monster can be frozen by looking at the variables I listed.

[reptile]

I'm sorry but that is incorrect. I've frozen creatures with less than 100%. I've also been incapable of freezing creatures with more than 100%.

NO it is not "RESISTED" they are IMMUNE!

Many Earth and Water are Immune as well, and their ice is 100% or more.

[Micah]

I have EIK I think I have frozen more things than you. Here I'll find a link to the requirements...

PS: Show me a picture of a frozen monster with it's ice % lower than 100 and I'll give you a cookie!

Ok Bam prepare to feel it.

Freezing

"A frozen monster cannot attack, and has its Fire Resistance set to 200% (even if it is normally higher). Freezing usually lasts for one turn. Freezing is symbolized by the word "Frozen!" beneath the monster's MP bar.

A monster cannot be frozen if its Ice Resistance is less than 100%, and/or if its base element is Ice.

Monsters receive a "saving throw" to resist freezing. This is equal to the monster's END * 0.25%.

0 END = 0% chance of resisting
50 END = 12.5% chance of resisting
100 END = 25% chance of resisting
200 END = 50% chance of resisting"

forums2.battleon.com/f/tm.asp?m=9737296

[reptile]

Uh huh, then please explain to me, why I've been running into monsters with ice resistance of 100% or above, who actually are IMMUNE to being frozen, and also, why some monsters (such as almost all water monsters) are immune and heal themselves.

Also, tell me why I can freeze some monsters whose base element is ice.

[Micah]

That is from the official forums. Wanna argue with the people who made the game? Not to smart. Notice that I highlighted the part about why it can't be frozen in my post...Yeah those big letters...I hoped that you would read them.

Once again you say that you can, post a screen shot of you with a frozen monster that has status impairing it from being frozen and I will bow and present you with a giant cookie

[yogurtfresh]

i miss the giany cookie... it's been ages since you've mentioned it.