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Post by iceberg on Jun 14, 2008 15:14:59 GMT -5
In short, people need to stop acting insane over things that SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED BACK IN '03!
Srsly.
From that far, Mages>Warriors. And because of the earlier 105 stat max limit, hybrids were unstoppable. They could spam spells AND use Melee weapons, at their best of abilities as well.
These days the difference between a Mage and Warrior has had its gap widen, to the point where you couldn't be as effective in both Magic/Melee weapon wielding as in the past. And now that Mages have been hit where it hurts the most, their outrageous MP, people are all "OH GOD NO YOU STAFF SUCK"
Srsly.
Either I take things too easy, or you people take things too hard.
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Post by ~Infini~ on Jun 14, 2008 16:40:41 GMT -5
A little of both, I still wanted to make a Warrior anyway. Mages lost a Lot of reliablity altough MP was an Issue for me always now it's worse.
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Post by Micah on Jun 14, 2008 18:33:43 GMT -5
Here is something. Why does AQ care if it is easy to kill monsters? They really shouldn't, I mean nerfs are stuff that you imply when someone is using something that gives them and advantage in PVP not when you are fighting monsters... Seriously though, who comes back to a game that makes them feel like they suck? I don't. Notice the new things cost 10k tokens? Hah that is ridiculous! Don't buy tokens, instead with that money buy a game that doesn't suck. Some people are gonna say: Without the nerfs it would be too EASY to farm money and buy better stuff! Why does that matter? Why make it hard for people to make accomplishments on something? I understand so challenges are needed, but seriously nerfing things just because you can kill a monster that is in 2D and offers no real accomplishment easily is pointless, Infact I think AQ should be buffing things not nerfing. Being over powerful is much more fun than being weak. ~End of this public (buy a good game) service announcement. So who actually read that? 10k tokens = $40Guildwars Propechies = $30Guildwars Factions = $40Guildwars Night Fall = $50Guildwars Eye of the north (this is an expansion, you must have one of the above[this is the newest]) = $40*Please note that some games may be acquired cheaper at walmart or another retail store. Oh and by the way GW PVP rated #1 and you can win alot of money by winning their monthly tournaments
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Post by fry on Jun 14, 2008 22:46:02 GMT -5
New ones do 16% more damage for 57% more MP. LOPSIDED!I've heard of uneven but thats like a fat kid and a feather playing on a seesaw.
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Post by iceberg on Jun 15, 2008 1:38:54 GMT -5
Mic, I assume it's something about challenge and the fact that the game wouldn't be entertaining if you could kill everything like never say that again or there will be consequences.
They just want to put some strategy in the game. Which is fine. Better than buttonspam.
Now they just need to put in more puzzles which actually need you to think to get through.
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Post by fry on Jun 15, 2008 2:04:07 GMT -5
Your a female?Thats not what it says under your name,anywho what you described isn't my problem,it's the drastic changes.
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Post by iceberg on Jun 15, 2008 4:11:38 GMT -5
It only seems drastic. It's been in the works for a long time, and now that they implement it, it seems like it's just slapped on, but there is the fact that during '03-08 period, a lot of spells have been released, some higher tiers, some lower tiers, and they all need to be worked out, damage values, MP costs and b2h's.
It would have come sooner or later.
Or would you have liked it better if they would have changed the spells one by one, and "lessen" the impact, save for those who use the spells affected and are the first victims.
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Post by Micah on Jun 15, 2008 9:58:18 GMT -5
I don't really see a point, making it to where people cant kill anything without getting close to dying drive ppl to cheat.
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Post by iceberg on Jun 15, 2008 10:58:06 GMT -5
I still can kill everything I come across. The only thing that has changed is that I can't do it anymore without using all(castable) MP.
If you have suddenly become unable to kill something now, then its very likely that you are doing something wrong. One guess would be too high-level of opponents, second is that you don't have a good-enough build.
Looking at you, it's a normal hybrid build. You aren't getting your full potential from anything.
While this is generic, I would get rid of the STR and put the points to INT/END. You still would be able to use Magic weapons to do damage, when you run out of MP, so yeah. You still could dish out damage, MAXIMUM even if you went to 200 INT.
Another thing is your 15 CHA. Why 15? Are you raising it up eventually? I'd switch those points to somewhere more needed, DEX, END or INT, whatever you like.
Of course this makes for a very boring gameplay. Srsly. I value Melee weapons more these days due to my Adventurer using only those, but the fact that I get no good amount of MP whatsoever due to 0 INT is very annoying.
If you still wish to stay with your hybrid ways, the only thing you really can do is to start farming into the higher tier, and use the stat points to go like you have done so far. You won't be able to kill everything(I for one, can rarely win against Nerfkitten, occasionally against Undead Armegoggon, and never against Kel-Al) but that's life.
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Post by Micah on Jun 15, 2008 11:58:46 GMT -5
LOLZ I don't waste, I mean play this game. Check my aqstats page. I haven't played in so long taht it doesn't even have a record for the past month or two.
All Im trying to say is that thier nerfing is stupid for somethings, I understand that some things need strategy, but if I spent a week or two trying to get enough money for something they shouldn't nerf it to pointlessness! They should have stuff like ubers that cost alot but are very powerful but are never nerfed. Hey 15m would be worth the time if I got an uber set that allowed me to wipeout most monsters without worrying. I understand that there are some monsters that aren't ment to be killed easily, but hey that is where strategy comes in.
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Post by xelemental on Jun 15, 2008 15:26:05 GMT -5
New ones do 16% more damage for 57% more MP. LOPSIDED!I've heard of uneven but thats like a fat kid and a feather playing on a seesaw. If you take out Empower, Focus and Stabilize from that, it is only 40% more damage for 110% more MP. Much more fair?
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Post by ~Infini~ on Jul 6, 2008 2:33:28 GMT -5
They utterly KILLED solar Incenerator. 231 mp for the SAME Spell. That's a joke right?
Also: Pyromancer seems to be the same MP most for some reason. 0,,o
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